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I love it when my LJ friends introduce me to new things or remind me of old things I'd like to revisit. tera00 replied to a comment I made about the movie Carrie and mentioned how she liked different Stephen King books, including The Stand.

It so happens I taped the miniseries years ago and watched part one last night. I am enjoying it again. judevenn asked me about another King story/movie which I believe is the Langoliers. Regardless, I checked out a copy of Four Past Midnight today and am re-reading it after more than 10 years.

It occurred to me that it would be nice if people were able to list a few "must see" or "must read" favorites for their friends, especially those that affected them deeply, or caused them to look at life a little differently. Of course, most of us are too busy to carry that very far but it's still a nice idea.

I mentioned the other day the play Waiting for Godot and how I meant to search for a line or two I wanted to reference. One of my LJ friends made a comment about it and it brought me back to the first time I read it and then saw it performed when I was in college. I guess I've always been philosophical about life, but it was a time when I first began to be aware of what other people had to say.

Samuel Beckett resisted anyone interpreting the meaning of the play, or at least avoided commenting on their interpretations. Here are a few "stream of consciousness" observations from an ex-English major looking back on the experience. I don't know what I intend to say so this may be a little scattered. Here goes.

Godot, of course, never shows up. But who was Godot? Didi and Gogo don't know him and have to ask the boy (who comes to tell them Godot won't be coming that day but definitely the next) what Godot looks like. The boy says he has a whitish beard, (he thinks but isn't sure) and says he does nothing. I once thought Godot was "God" but I don't think so now. There are Christian references, I think, the Tree (of life?), being saved, and references to Jesus. There are no leaves on the tree the first day but a few on the second. Everything else is the same. Poor Didi and Gogo. They have been together 50 years and one day is just as much the same as any other. Even at sunset, Gogo doesn't know if it is morning or evening, and it is Didi who assures him that he cannot forget having lived through a whole day. And then there is Pozzo and poor Lucky. Lucky can only think when he is wearing his hat and is told to do so by Pozzo, then goes into a 3 page monologue that sounds nonsensical (except, perhaps to philosophers who may catch a little something here and there). On the second day, Pozzo is now blind, and despite his cruelty is given some assistance by Didi and Gogo. Pozzo is blind and there are leaves on the tree, and Gogo has found a new pair of boots from someone who has taken his in their place. He took off the old boots because they hurt and now finds the new boots fit! Only pain and chance has brought this about. The boy returns with the same message about Godot, but doesn't remember being there the previous day. Could it have been the boy's brother before? He doesn't know. Didi and Gogo obviously love each other, but together only make each other unhappy. But they are all they have and sometimes can't even remember places they've been before, or things they've done. The only thing they agree that would bring them pleasure and happiness is to hang themselves from the tree--- but they have no rope. Gogo's poor belt collapses when they test it's strength. At the end, they agree they will try again tomorrow, unless Godot comes, and then they will be saved. They decide they will leave the place... but as curtain falls, they stand there still.

Interesting, yes? Has anyone read or seen the play? And what do you think of it? Is life really that absurd?

ALSO---ripped from miss_kat_1968:

Even if I don't know you very well....

1. Reply to this with your name and I will write something I like about you.
2. I will then tell what song reminds me of you.
3. If I were to apply an o'clock to you, I'll tell you what it would be.
4. I will try to name a single word that best describes you.
5. I'll tell you the most memorable moment I've had with you.
6. I will tell you what color you remind me of.
7. I'll then tell you something that I've always wondered about you.
8. Put this in your journal

Comments

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judevenn
Jan. 14th, 2006 12:09 am (UTC)
Hello Edmond;

As I told you, I have read the book some years ago, in college.

It was great reading you about the 'En Attendant Godot' storyline because it made me remember some little details;

I have always thought that Godot was indeed God; because even at the very end, they are still waiting for Him, as in real life, we don't see Him, (just an interpretation of course).

What I can tell you in my amateur writing way, is that I tremendously enjoyed that book, because it made me think, (and that was what Mr. Beckett wanted), and we eventually wonder, until the very end, still unsure of who Godot is. That's what make it philosophical; no sure answer. Questions, questions, it's what philosophie is all about, and that's what I like about it.

I made the mistake to borrow the book to my brother and since I haven't seen him since more than 2 years, I am pretty sure I won't see it again. It will be worth buying it again though.

If you only knew, Edmond, how many books I want to read, or reread. I love reading, but I read mostly in English, so I read more slowly. But I prefer English for my readings.

I agree with you about the "must be read" (or seen) list; there are so many gems!


metaphorsbwithu
Jan. 14th, 2006 12:53 am (UTC)
I enjoyed your insights. You made me think about what philosophy really is. I used to search for answers, but now I'm satisfied just getting the questions straight. So you are right, Judith. Thank you. See. You are a "lover of wisdom" yourself.

If you have a "must be read" (or seen) for me sometime, I would love to hear of it.

Now, you did not leave your name, so I don't know if you wish me to say what I like about you and all. However, since I am so bold (lol) I will tell you.

"Fasten your seat belt; it's going to be a bumpy ride."

Okay, here goes:

1. I like how your essence, your innocence, your joy, all fly off the screen of my monitor to fill my room. You are enchanting, kind, warm, and giving, even though you sometimes feel great pain yourself. You make everyone smile.

2. Hhmmm... so many... Hit Me With Your Best Shot? (only sometimes). Uh... There Will Never Be Another You? Too obvious. No, I think I will say Stardust.

3. Ten minutes after ten (a.m. or p.m.). The hands make a smile each time.

4. That's easy... captivating.

5. When you asked why I thought you were so easy to entertain, and you replied to my answer how perfectly I described you and how it seemed I'd always known you. (What a nice compliment!)

6. Amber. It sounds warm and pretty, doesn't it?

7. Okay, let's be nice here. Let's see... Hhmmm... did you ever kiss and tell?

8. Now, put this in your journal (if you dare!).


judevenn
Jan. 14th, 2006 05:36 am (UTC)
You know about a must read I would suggest you, (that is, if you haven't read it), it's "Krutzer Sonata", (la sonate a Krutzer), I know I told you about this book in the past, but then I say it again, because I loved that book; it's a captivating read.

About philosophie, I love it, because it's seeking for wisdom, knowing we never actually reach it! ;)
***********

Ah that's so kind of you to have done the Name thing! (I forgot to ask!)

1- I am blushing and flattered, (checking my head, still the same size!;) You are very perceptive, monsieur! :D

2-lol! at 'Hit me with your best shot', (I really like that one; I hope It won't hurt too much though! :D.
About Stardust, I will have to check, I don't remember the song perfectly. Same with "There will never be anyone like you"!

3- Ah so cute!

4- You are a lot captivating yourself, Edmond! :D

5- Well, that's true, I feel like you know me!

6-Awww yes, amber is so pretty;

7- No, I don't kiss and tell; I am pretty discreet in that area! are you? ;)

8- I already did!

metaphorsbwithu
Jan. 14th, 2006 06:03 am (UTC)
Hi Judith!

My eyes are falling out of my head and I am ready to doze off. I hope I don't blind you with all of my words. I forget sometimes that you must work a little harder to read English since you are so good at picking up the little nuances.


I don't believe you told me about Krutzer Sonata, but I will see if our libraries have it. Thank you so much for that.

Also:

1. Don't be too flattered as I can only speak the truth about you. (I'm sorry. You can certainly be flattered if you want to... Hey! I'm sounding "bossy" tonight.)

2. Don't worry. I'm pretty good at running away. (I only know "American" songs. The other two songs are "standards.")

3. Thank you.

4. ***really blushing***

5. I'm glad for that.

6. Yes it is.

7. I am sometimes a rascal but always a gentleman.

8. Good!

That was fun! Well, it was very nice "talking" to you Judith. And now, I must say pleasant dreams to you, mon cher.

judevenn
Jan. 14th, 2006 09:39 pm (UTC)
Bonjour Edmond!

About books suggestions; have you ever read "The Entity" by Frank De Felitta? (or seen the movie?)

Because it is another one I would suggest, (that is if you are not scared easily)hehee!



metaphorsbwithu
Jan. 14th, 2006 11:34 pm (UTC)
{{{{the entity}}}}
Bonjour Mademoiselle!

Yes, I am familiar with the book and the movie. It was said to be based on a true story.

To be completely honest, that lady did scare me a little bit. ;p

Thanks for the suggestion.

p.s. Oh, one of my favorite and most wonderfully disturbing movies... Have you every seen David and Lisa? You will like it if you are very brave yourself.
judevenn
Jan. 14th, 2006 11:39 pm (UTC)
Re: {{{{the entity}}}}
I have never seen 'David and Lisa'; but now I am very curious about it, thank you for telling me!

I know I commented a lot to you these last few days; I hope I am not too bothering with my 'talking'! ;)

bonne soirée, monsieur Edmond!

metaphorsbwithu
Jan. 14th, 2006 11:58 pm (UTC)
au contraire
***GASP***

I hope I am not too bothering with my 'talking'

My Dear Judith... if I could, I would tie you to a chair so that I could talk to you until the sun came up... (I'd have to restrain you because you would surely grow tired of ME).

... but I would feed you pralines and hot cocoa and grilled cheese sandwiches whenever you wished, so maybe you would not run away too quickly...

What do you think of that Little Miss Anxiety? (I do not mean to offend you --- often I will delete some things I write to people, but I feel I can say almost anything to you--- and I am only teasing).

Your words always bring me great delight. If I must rest or work, I do. At least I try.

E

p.s. And do look up David and Lisa. It is a very strange but touching film. I think I will start to make a list of things I'd like for you to see. Okay!

judevenn
Jan. 15th, 2006 05:12 am (UTC)
Non! you wouldn't have to tie me at all! imagine, we could talk books, philosophie, mystic bayous; cultures of Louisiane, (and astronomy too, I love astronomy), and I love grilled-cheeses with my pralines and cacao! I take a cacao evey night by the way.
So another point for you, for figuring my habits! ;)

You even know I am anxious; now that tops it; were we twins separated at birth? non, impossible, you are one feet taller than me.
And I know you did not mean to offend me, of course, I never thought that! :)
(are you anxious too, mon ami?)

And I took note of the movie, but was there a book about it too?

Do you know what I started reading last week Ed? "Mystic Isle", it's a Harlequin Intrigue, (yes, I know). And it has to do with dangerous man who scams people by hypnotizing them in vaudou ways. Pretty interesting! (the author is actually a louisiana woman, so that makes the details more accurate).
....

But about "The Entity"; the lady scared you? I would tell you that in my case, it was the entity in question that scared me, ;)

Of course I guess I am not telling you news that it is true account? and that even to these days, even scientists haven't been able to explain this phenomena?

But I look scary now; I love comedies; especially Doris Day and Rock Hudson 60's movies. They are sweet!

I had another thing to add but I will refrain, I don't want to load your brain you know? ;D
metaphorsbwithu
Jan. 15th, 2006 06:33 pm (UTC)
J

It is sometimes frustrating reading you because you give me so many things I want to respond to. Your comments are like firecrackers popping in my head. Plus, I don't want to overwhelm you with my responses.

But, you reminded me of an old wordplay game from the 1940's and maybe earlier. It concerns "Vaudo," or as it is also spelled "Vaudoo" or more commonly here, "Voodoo."

One person tells another person:

You remind me of a man

What man?

The man with the power.

What power?

The power of Voodoo.

Voodoo?

You do.

Do what?

Remind me of a man.

What man?

The man with the power.

What power?

The power of Voodoo.

Voodoo?

You do...


It goes on until someone laughs or surrenders.

Cute Huh?

It's been used in movies and even a few songs, I think.

E

p.s. Yes. The woman in The Entity scared me a little, but that's okay. I think I am drawn to women who are a little "disturbed" (like a fly to the spider). ***LOL***
metaphorsbwithu
Jan. 16th, 2006 08:03 pm (UTC)
"David and Lisa"
Maddi (short for Mademoiselle)

About David and Lisa. It was a low budget independent film made around 1962. It was later on the stage, I believe, and was based on a book about two disturbed teenagers by Dr. Theodore Isaac Rubin.

You see... you've done it again. Now I will have to read the book! What am I to do with you, Mademoiselle J!!

The movie is considered by some to be a little old-fashioned. It was remade as a television movie a few years ago. I have always found it fascinating and touching, even if the ending is a little strange.

I hope this helps you, mon cher.
el_jefe59
Jan. 14th, 2006 03:36 am (UTC)
I've never read Waiting for Godot but I think I probably should now. When I was in college I read Endgame which I found bizarre and fascinating!

Oh and: Jeff
metaphorsbwithu
Jan. 14th, 2006 04:17 am (UTC)
The dialog comes so fast and furious, you really have to read (or see it) again and again. I'm sure there are all kinds of references that slipped past me. It's only a one-set, two-act play but amazingly written and choreographed with lots of pathos, humor, and plenty of slapstick.

Okay, as for the little thingy. Let's see what erupts from my weird little brain cells:

1. Your intelligence, wit, humor, and keen perception, of course. You are a good "listener" which is unusual because most people are more into "saying." Despite your affected "curmudgeonliness," you are a kind and sympathetic person at heart, although profoundly impatient with stupidity (or what you perceive to be stupid).

2. Night Moves by Bob Seger.

3. 3 a.m. (as in One for My Baby)

4. Eclectic.

5. When you asked me if you and I were the same person. Got a good laugh at that.

6. Mustard. (don't ask)

7. Have you ever wanted to really kill someone? (You might want to lie on that one.)

8. Put this in your journal... again.


Well, what do you think? I'd say I'm pretty good at this stuff. LOL
el_jefe59
Jan. 14th, 2006 05:07 am (UTC)
1. I am humbled! Thank you!

2. Ah, nostalgia!

3. I have to admit, I love that song. It's my favorite Sinatra recording!

4. Cool!

5. I still think we might be.

6. But I'm curious!

7. There have been a few times when it has seemed tempting but I haven't acted on it.

8. OK
aspoor
Jan. 14th, 2006 06:39 pm (UTC)
Sounds fun... I will post this in my journal as well very soon... Of course, you already know my name... *lol* I'm a bit curious as to what you have to say about me, to say the very least... =B
metaphorsbwithu
Jan. 14th, 2006 08:01 pm (UTC)
Yes, do that... it'll give you a chance to analyze the characters around you and see how you can translate them into black and white... not always an easy task.

As for you, A, let's see what prints out here.

1. You are like a butterfly, dancing in the sun among the flowers, but we wonder where you go when it gets dark. You have many interests, are so energetic, and happily pursue those interests as you see fit. You are also soft-hearted but firm in your beliefs, determined, caring, somewhat crazy, and a little (!) mischevious.

2. Try (Just a Little Bit Harder) by Janis Joplin.

3. 8 p.m. DST (sundown)! heeheehee

4. Delightful!

5. So many... I'll always remember when you picked me out of the blue and how you "got mad" at me for calling you a nerd (lol). I guess I'll say it was when I received your e-card for Christmas. I was very touched.

6. Red!

7. Did you ever have a wish come true? (a big tall one)

8. Put this in your journal (if you wish).

Now, how was that?
aspoor
Jan. 14th, 2006 10:02 pm (UTC)
1. I'm so very touched by that... and I wonder where I go sometimes, too... @_@

2. The song title strikes at my memory bank, but I must go find lyrics now...

3. Yes, very accurate, and very perceptive of you! ^_~

4. Why, thank you!! *hug*

5. I already have lots of memories of you, too - and you're still welcome for that card! *lol*

6. Big surprise, huh? =P

7. Yes (for a little girl, anyway) - wishing on a star has actually worked for me in the past. Because of a long-held and heartfelt wish made many times upon said star, I got my first real pet - a white kitten for my 6th birthday - and he was exactly what I wanted (except I wanted a girl)! I still miss him...

8. Will do!

*smooches*
(Anonymous)
Jan. 15th, 2006 05:10 am (UTC)
hey p
ED THIS IS REALLY COOL I SOOO NEED TO DO THIS ITS LIKE THERAPY TOO I COULD WRITE ABOUT ALL KINDS OF THINGS ANY WAY JUST WANTED TO SAY HEY AND THAT I LOVE YA LATA NICOLE
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